11/11/2026 4:00:00 AM | MGoBlue Podcasts
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Welcome to the official podcast of Michigan football, In the Trenches with Jon Jansen, presented by Meijer, presenting sponsor of the 2026 Michigan football season and proud supporter of hundreds of local sports teams across the Midwest.
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Nobody covers Michigan football better than the two-time captain, national champion, and Michigan Athletics Hall of Honor inductee.
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Once again, here's Jon Jansen.
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Welcome back, friends, and I'll let you know what's going on in M Go Blue podcast, the radio replay of Inside Michigan football.
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That one's already out.
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Kyle Whittingham obviously joined me for the first couple of segments.
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Safeties coach Tyler Stockton joined me as well.
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And captain, Rod Moore Jr.
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Still to come, Defend the Block, a couple of recapped episodes of Michigan Men's Basketball on the horizon, Marquette, as well as William and Mary, Conqu'ring Heroes.
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We're going to continue the Hall of Honor series.
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And in the trenches, we will have on Thursday the preview edition, working on that right now, the keys to the game.
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And then Saturday's recap, hopefully of a big time win out at Eugene, taking on the Oregon Ducks.
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And at this time, I'm going to bring in my partner,
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Brian Boesch.
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Brian, how you doing, man?
00:01:33 Brian Boesch
I'm doing great.
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Obviously a busy time.
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And yeah, listen, we need computers locked and loaded, firing away.
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Yours is good to go now.
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We're all set.
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Let's talk some football.
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Let's get into our seven from 77, Jon, obviously.
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Oh, first off, before we do, I do want to say happy veteran's day for those listening on the audio side.
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It comes out on veteran's day.
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For those who are live and locked in here with us on Tuesdays, noon to one on the Michigan Athletics YouTube channel.
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Happy veteran's day.
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Everyone, I'm sure, has at least someone in their life if they aren't the person who has served or been around someone who served.
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So we thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you to allow us to talk about and a lot of times this year to complain about football.
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Yes, there'll be more of that today.
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All right, one on 7 from 77.
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Kyle Whittingham Sunday announced that he relieved offensive coordinator Jason Beck of his duties just nine games into his time in Ann Arbor.
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Your reaction in the immediate and then since as you've had a chance to reflect.
00:02:36 Jon Jansen
Immediately, I was a little bit surprised.
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Everything we had heard from Coach was that he was going to wait till the offseason, make those evaluations.
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And if he deemed changes need to be happened, that's when it was going to happen.
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So surprised that it happened on Sunday, but then not surprised because I felt like this was a stagnant offense.
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Nothing seemed to be working and there's a lot of blame to go around.
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But it all starts and ends with the offensive coordinator offensively.
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And offensive line hasn't played well.
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You could talk about the running backs, quarterback, wide receivers have been a little bit of a bright spot, but there's been some drops there as well.
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So yeah, I'm not surprised because the offense
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has sputtered so much and not even sputtered, hasn't even got started.
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You can really look at this season and say, okay, second-half of Penn State and at times in or against Rutgers, but you got to take it with a grain of salt because it was Rutgers.
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And when you're not able to move the ball against Michigan State, you're not able to run the football.
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You can't protect the quarterback.
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You know, somebody's got to take the fall and it was no surprise that it was going to be Jason Beck.
00:03:50 Brian Boesch
So #2 on our seven from 77, Jim Harding takes over as interim offensive coordinator.
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What can he and this staff realistically change or adjust on 6 days notice?
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And what challenges come from a mid-season adjustment like this, even if yes, unquestionably something had to change with the offense.
00:04:10 Jon Jansen
Well, what one of the positives could be is that there should be nobody that understands what this offensive line can and can't do more so than the offensive line coach.
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So if there were things, and I don't know, but if there were things where, they were looking at it saying, gosh, I wish we would run this or I wish we would run that.
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Like there's, this is the opportunity to get the game plan that you want or deem necessary as an offensive line to find some success.
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The challenges are first that, you know, Jim Harding has not been an offensive play call.
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It's one thing to be able to, hey, here's a couple of suggestions for the run game if you're looking to run the ball on this play.
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But the pass game is really where there takes a lot of sophistication and we all know, hey, there's a play clock.
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So can you take a look at down distance, you know, hash where you are on the field, what's going on?
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Are you able to set up plays and have a rhythm to the offense?
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That remains to be seen because he just has never been in that position to call play.
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So those are going to be some of the challenges on the coaching side of things.
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For the players, players really shouldn't notice much of a difference other than maybe some different calls coming in.
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what does the preparation look like during the week?
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Because Jim Harding is, still the offensive line coach.
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He's going to be coaching those guys up, as well as developing a game plan along with the assistant coaches.
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We heard that from Kyle Whittingham.
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It's not just going to be Jim Harding trying to come up with some great game plan.
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It's a collaborative effort.
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But when it does come down to call in plays, how much is he going to listen to
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receivers coach, running backs coach, assistant O-line coach who's going to be boots on the ground on Saturday.
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And how does he process that, put that into play form, get something called?
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I would anticipate, and it's not a knock on him, but that there may be some early on in the game sometimes where they're going to have to call timeout just because maybe there's not a play ready to go.
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What are the go-to plays?
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that no matter what the down a distance, no matter what the situation, obviously, extenuating circumstance, if it's third long, you're not going to go to a go to run.
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But you've got to have some of those where, hey, boom, we need to play.
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Let's go.
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This is what we're doing.
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And plays called plays run.
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And now you reset for the next one.
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So #3 on our seven from 77.
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Obviously, this isn't the only fix.
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Other things need to happen.
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Michigan narrowly avoided its first home shutout since 1967.
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This isn't really a question, just more a discussion topic.
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It doesn't matter who's coaching, who's calling plays, what the scenario is, the effort level, the physicality, the want to has to be better than it was Saturday.
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I think that there have been, I think some things to hang your hat on in most performances this year, not saying offensively just as a team and a lot of time it's been defense, but that performance on Saturday
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Things had to change, period, full stop, because of the way that Michigan represented itself for 60 minutes.
00:07:22 Jon Jansen
Yeah, I was kind of wondering there.
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You kind of stole some of my notes and my preparation for my locker room speech for Thursday.
00:07:30 Brian Boesch
I have no fear that you will have plenty of gasoline ready to roll for that.
00:07:35 Jon Jansen
Well, and I mean, the time for gasoline is kind of past because you're expecting
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guys that are playing at the University of Michigan to be self-starters.
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Now, not every college kid is a self-starter.
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Some of them need a kick in the pants every once in a while.
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But this was 105 guys that need a kick in the pants because what you saw on Saturday, that wasn't Michigan football.
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I don't even know what that was.
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I haven't seen something like that since I have been watching the game of football, since I've been watching Michigan football.
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That was unrecognizable to me.
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And I do know
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that there's a lot of pride in that offensive line.
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There's a lot of pride on that defensive line.
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There's a lot of pride in every single position.
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And so there are some guys, hopefully it's every single one of them that have looked in the mirror and said, that's not Michigan football.
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That's not the guys that have worn this jersey before are watching us play.
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Those that will come after are going to have to look at that and say, this is what I'm supposed to play like.
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That was not Michigan football.
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So there needs to be a better effort.
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And offensively, when I talk to these guys, if you don't know what you're doing, you can't be aggressive.
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But if you make a mistake, then you do it 100 miles an hour.
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You do it as fast and as hard as you can, or you get back to the huddle, or you get back to the sidelines and be like, coach, I was confused on this one.
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Okay, we can figure out the answers.
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But what as a coach, what you can't figure out is lack of effort.
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That's something that should be a constant every single play, every single game.
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It wasn't there.
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This is a team that got hit in the mouth early in that game and they just simply never responded.
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They wilted.
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And I don't know, I've not seen a Michigan team do that.
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So yeah, if there's pride in that locker room,
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They're going to come out with their hair on fire and that's what it's going to take.
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That's the first step.
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It's going to take a hell of a lot more to play against a team like Oregon.
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It's very talented.
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We'll talk more about them, but they've got speed.
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They've got size.
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They've got some tremendous athletes and they're a team that is still in the hunt.
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There are three lost team, but still in the hunt for a playoff spot.
00:09:51 Brian Boesch
They've got all of those things and momentum after what they did in Columbus, which we'll talk about.
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But I want to get your assessment of the defense because
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Was in the defense still like it has been almost exclusively this season was the best of Michigan's three units on Saturday.
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It did not allow a touchdown, but there there was far from a perfect performance.
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So what do you take away from a group that again needed to be leaned on for almost 40 minutes of time of possession, but it just didn't quite get when you saw the two lines meet Michigan State's offense against Michigan's defense, whether it was a running back or
00:10:28 Brian Boesch
It was a receiver.
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It just seemed like the yards that were kind of in that gray area, you're not really sure where they would go, seemed to tilt Michigan State's way a lot more than I would have anticipated.
00:10:38 Jon Jansen
Yeah, and it did for me as well.
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And what I was, I was surprised like you're going to give up some plays in any given game.
00:10:45 Jon Jansen
But the way that this defense has played and as consistent at that they played at a really high level.
00:10:53 Jon Jansen
I was surprised when you look at the drive chart, and I'm trying to pull it up here on my computer here, but-.
00:11:01 Brian Boesch
It might come up as a virus.
00:11:04 Jon Jansen
Right.
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You know, and you just, you'll look at, what is it, the last, from basically mid second quarter on, there were seven drives.
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And obviously the last one was a nail down, so I'm not gonna count that, six drives.
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They scored on all on five of those six that Michigan's defense only forced one punt.
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Now some of those were short drives because of turnovers or field position, but they put together a 17 play 79 yard drive that started on the minus one.
00:11:40 Jon Jansen
If you had told me and the biggest question mark that I have about this football season is where did the offensive line go?
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The biggest question and the one thing that surprised me, if you had told me that Michigan State would start on their one yard line and come away with points, not talking about a touchdown, just come away with points, I would have said no chance.
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Because this is a, it's a Michigan State team that was on their, at times on their 5th running back.
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down the depth chart from where they started the season.
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They had injuries up front.
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their quarterback was, is not one that you're going to look at and say, well, yeah, he's going to light the world on fire.
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But in that drive, it was a 17 play drive.
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15 of those plays were runs and they were so good on 1st down.
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It was 8 yards and you're looking at 2nd and two.
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And then the next time it was 9 yards.
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So you're looking at 2nd and one, 6 yards.
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You're looking at 2nd and four.
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I was just shocked
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that they were able to put together a drive of that nature by running the football.
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This is a defense that was uncharacteristic of this defense.
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So yeah, the offensive line got pushed around, but quite honestly, in the second-half and specifically in the third quarter, it's a defense that got pushed around as well.
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And when you watch, we talked to Coach Whittingham about this, and I know that he shared some of these numbers with us on the Inside Michigan Football Radio Show.
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the yardage that they got because the offensive line hustled downfield and helped the assisted the running back 50 yards in that game 50 frickin yards that to me it blew my mind I knew that they they we could see it in the game and you could feel it but to put a number on that that to me was I just I couldn't believe it so yeah the defense
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has been what this Michigan football team has been able to hang their hat on.
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But in the second-half of that Michigan State game, it wasn't the characteristic, it wasn't the defense that we have come to know and love this year.
00:13:52 Brian Boesch
It goes to show you playing complimentary football, staying on schedule.
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The reason why Michigan's offense had success against Rutgers, remember 12 of 16 on third down was because they had third and shorts, third and manageables.
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Michigan State did that more than Michigan on Saturday, which shows you how neither Michigan nor Michigan State has a good season long offense this year.
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They're two of the worst.
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But if you just stay on schedule and give yourself a chance, it's why there was a huge difference in third down success, Michigan State to Michigan.
00:14:25 Jon Jansen
Yeah, and it's
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Offensively, it's somewhat of an absolute mystery as to what the struggles have been all season.
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But defensively, I just was surprised that they were able to attack the center of that defense as well.
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And Jay Hill, I thought did a nice job, especially late in the third quarter, early fourth quarter adjusting.
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And that was, hey, we're gonna bring the house.
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They're gonna run the ball.
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We're gonna bring a whole bunch of run dogs
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And we're going to fill gaps with Chris Bracy.
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We're going to fill gaps with Troy Bowles and, you know, Chase Taylor.
00:15:03 Jon Jansen
When you do that though, as we saw, it makes you vulnerable on the back end of some of those quick passes.
00:15:07 Jon Jansen
And they, you know, as that one 17 play drive, it wasn't on there, but it was later where they converted some of those third downs by being able to hit the running back out of the backfield or a receiver over the middle.
00:15:19 Brian Boesch
Yep, alright #5 of our 7 from 77.
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As you mentioned, a lot of people wrote Oregon off, myself included, and I had high expectations for Oregon.
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I think both you and I had them as our preseason national championship predictions, but they've lost at Oklahoma State at home to UCLA and at Illinois, but they've got back-to-back strong wins ending really Northwestern's chances to contend in the CFP at home and then winning in Columbus emphatically after a slow start last week.
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What has impressed you?
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What has changed about an Oregon team that's had about as many ups and downs as any team that's still hanging around in that college football playoff conversation?
00:15:58 Jon Jansen
Well, the biggest change was obviously Dante Moore, who started the season, left after that hit against USC and is not going to be back the rest of the season.
00:16:09 Jon Jansen
Dylan Raiola goes in and in that game, right, there's a little magic.
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He makes some things happen and they come away with the win.
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In that next game against UCLA, and I think UCLA is the big surprise in the Big Ten, just with what Chesney, their coach, has done out there.
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But they're playing against UCLA.
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They're at home.
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Not a surprise as you look back that they lost that game.
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But Dylan Raiola is starting to play much better.
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He's doing a nice job of distributing the ball.
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They're protecting them better.
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And they're really starting to get the play that we thought that they would have at the beginning of the season.
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Skilled players.
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running backs, wide receivers, secondary.
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They've got as much speed as you're going to find across the country.
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And one of the things that coach talked about, you know, on Monday night was the amount of speed that they have at those positions.
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When you're talking about track guys, they've got, they got a dude that runs at 10, 100.
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Like that is absolutely flying.
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Now it doesn't always translate to the football field.
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But at this point, they're playing fast and they're playing disciplined.
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That's the biggest thing that I think that has really changed is the level of play has gone up, but that level of play has gone up in regards to they're not turning the ball over.
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They're not getting penalized as much as they were at the start of the season.
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This is a team that identified their issues and actually fixed them.
00:17:43 Brian Boesch
Before we explore some other college football storylines where Oregon might fit into this entire conversation within the big 10 race from a playoff standpoint and within that national conversation, if you're coming to town for the UCLA game next weekend or an upcoming sporting event on campus, Jon, we have some advice for them.
00:18:02 Jon Jansen
Yeah, if you want to stick around, have a little fun in Ann Arbor, explore some more, visit your favorite places.
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That's
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then see what's new.
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Hit up the downtown social district for award-winning restaurants, take a stroll through campus, and turn up the energy with live music.
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Who doesn't love live music?
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There's a lot to do outside of Ann Arbor as well, like hiking the B2B trail, golfing on some of the incredible courses.
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That's because the Ann Arbor area is 7 communities full of year-round fun.
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Plenty of fellow fans rooting for the maize and blue.
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That's the winning lineup.
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Start planning your trip at annarbor.org.
00:18:39 Brian Boesch
All right, number six on our seven from 77.
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Let's talk about the Big 10.
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UCLA remains unbeaten, winning at Minnesota 34 to 20.
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They finish home with Illinois on Friday, then at Michigan and home against USC.
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I think unquestionably the Bruins are in the postseason if they at least get two more wins down the stretch.
00:19:04 Brian Boesch
There it depends on how things look if they go 10 and two and fall out of the race, but they could have two losses if they go to the Big 10 championship game, the last Big 10 championship game, which we'll get into.
00:19:16 Brian Boesch
But do you feel like UCLA is likely to be 12 and oh or 11 and one and and basically punch their ticket before potentially a trip to Indianapolis?
00:19:28 Jon Jansen
Yeah, I think that they are, they're the team to beat in the Big Ten because they've been most consistent.
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And, Indiana, Indiana's got a big one this weekend, but they just haven't gotten the play out of their quarterback like they were expecting.
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And when you look at UCLA, much like I talked about, hey, Dante Moore going down and all of a sudden, you know, Dylan Raiola goes in, Diefenbach, now the quarterback for UCLA,
00:19:56 Jon Jansen
One of the most bizarre stat lines I think you're ever going to see is 8 of 16 for 303 yards.
00:20:02 Jon Jansen
You're like, what?
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They had one receiver, 2 catches, 150 yards, 75 each, both of them for scores.
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Like they, you want to talk about the opportunity or how impactful explosive plays can be.
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Just take a look at, I mean, Samaj Morgan, and we're all familiar with him.
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He had one catch
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for 54 yards now that one didn't go for a score but that's they spread the ball around and I think that's the most important or most impressive thing about Dieffenbach is he doesn't necessarily put the ball in a lot of jeopardy and they've got playmakers on the edges they've got guys that are you know it could go the distance clearly and they spread the ball around they had let's see I'm just looking at they had
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seven different pass catchers and only eight receptions.
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The one that I talked about Mizell had the two catches for both for touchdowns for 75 yards and each other receiver that they have, including the running backs, only caught one ball.
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And so they do a nice job of spreading the ball around.
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And, you know, they're a team that's led by their defense.
00:21:10 Jon Jansen
They just play swarming, aggressive, violent defense.
00:21:16 Brian Boesch
You mean you don't?
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normally see a 38 yards per completion.
00:21:20 Brian Boesch
I don't think I could have pulled that off on NFL Blitz except for maybe the Washington team with those muscular offensive linemen there in 1999 and 2000.
00:21:31 Jon Jansen
Probably not, probably not.
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Get a little choked up there.
00:21:34 Jon Jansen
But it's not just the pass game, right?
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They run the football.
00:21:38 Jon Jansen
I was watching some of their offensive line because
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They're playing, they played Oregon earlier in the season.
00:21:44 Jon Jansen
Obviously, we talked about that as one of Oregon's losses.
00:21:47 Jon Jansen
But when I watch their offensive line, they've got a center that looks like he's about 6 foot nothing.
00:21:54 Jon Jansen
And you want to talk about a guy that maximizes his ability, plays with great leverage, doesn't put himself in compromising situations.
00:22:02 Jon Jansen
And it's really across the board.
00:22:04 Jon Jansen
They've got some guys, they got a left guard that will just rip your head off and just be violent with you.
00:22:11 Jon Jansen
That's why they're so good.
00:22:13 Jon Jansen
That's why they're so explosive in the pass game is because you have to address both areas with them, the run and the pass.
00:22:21 Brian Boesch
So the Bruins, they're in the driver's seat, Big Ten, and from a college football playoff standpoint, we'll see if Michigan can play a little spoiler next week.
00:22:29 Brian Boesch
And how do you size up the other contenders?
00:22:31 Brian Boesch
Indiana,
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I didn't realize this until late last week.
00:22:34 Brian Boesch
Indiana finally had its buy last week.
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They finished with USC at Washington and home Purdue.
00:22:40 Brian Boesch
USC was also off to remember that was their second buy.
00:22:43 Brian Boesch
They played that week zero game that 100 saw at the Coliseum.
00:22:47 Brian Boesch
After Indiana, it is home against Maryland at UCLA.
00:22:51 Brian Boesch
Iowa they win over fading Northwestern 24 to 10 Hawkeyes finish home Purdue at Illinois home Nebraska and then Ohio State six and three but losses to Texas, USC and Oregon so the losses are respectable.
00:23:07 Brian Boesch
They finished Northwestern at Nebraska home against Michigan.
00:23:11 Brian Boesch
How do you size it up?
00:23:12 Brian Boesch
If you had to say I feel most confident about blank team reaching the playoff of that four, who would you say?
00:23:21 Jon Jansen
I would say USC.
00:23:23 Jon Jansen
And I think going to Indiana, this is my upset special this morning on the morning show.
00:23:30 Jon Jansen
Because Indiana is favored by 7 1/2 and I'm not sure where the odds makers are getting that because USC is those West Coast teams are going to get adjusted to moving or traveling three time zones because they just do it more often than the, you know, the base of the Big Ten here in the Midwest.
00:23:47 Jon Jansen
We only go out there once.
00:23:50 Jon Jansen
USC has gone to Rutgers.
00:23:51 Jon Jansen
USC is now going to Indiana.
00:23:54 Jon Jansen
Oh, as USC went to Penn State as well, I believe.
00:23:57 Jon Jansen
So they're more accustomed to, you know, going across these time zones.
00:24:01 Jon Jansen
And with Jayden Maiava and that offense, they're going to score some points.
00:24:05 Jon Jansen
The question I have about Indiana is the consistency that they've had on offense.
00:24:09 Jon Jansen
Now, coming off of bye week, Kirk Signetti is a tremendous coach.
00:24:14 Jon Jansen
Is Josh Hoover going to be healthy?
00:24:16 Jon Jansen
Is he going to be more efficient with the football?
00:24:18 Jon Jansen
Are they going to be able to find those duo of receivers that we were talking about when Michigan played Indiana?
00:24:25 Jon Jansen
You know, they have the opportunity to be an explosive offense.
00:24:27 Jon Jansen
They just haven't been able to find that rhythm.
00:24:29 Jon Jansen
Can they do that coming out of the bye week?
00:24:32 Jon Jansen
That's the, you know, the shrug emoji.
00:24:34 Jon Jansen
I don't know.
00:24:35 Jon Jansen
But I do know that USC, their playoff
00:24:40 Jon Jansen
survival is on the line.
00:24:41 Jon Jansen
And I think they're going to they're going to go into Bloomington and get a win.
00:24:46 Brian Boesch
But then they so I very I do think it's possible.
00:24:49 Brian Boesch
But then if they don't beat UCLA, are they in at 9 and three?
00:24:54 Jon Jansen
I think there's going to be a couple of big 10 teams that could get in at 9 and three.
00:24:58 Jon Jansen
USC would be one of them.
00:24:59 Brian Boesch
Here'd be my question.
00:25:01 Brian Boesch
Who would you take?
00:25:02 Brian Boesch
Say Indiana, sorry, say USC beats Indiana this weekend, loses close to UCLA, Iowa wins out, goes 10 and two.
00:25:10 Brian Boesch
Who do you think would be your selection?
00:25:13 Brian Boesch
And who do you think the committee would pick?
00:25:14 Brian Boesch
10 and two Iowa, nine and three USC, because USC would have the better wins.
00:25:19 Jon Jansen
Right, I would take USC.
00:25:21 Jon Jansen
I think they're the better team, but I don't know what they're gonna do with a 10 and two Iowa.
00:25:27 Jon Jansen
I mean, it's just, you know, Iowa has played better offensively
00:25:30 Jon Jansen
with multiple quarterbacks in and out, but I wouldn't trust them to go up against the speed of some of these, SEC teams.
00:25:40 Jon Jansen
And not that the SEC is lighting it on fire.
00:25:43 Brian Boesch
Yeah, you're right about that.
00:25:45 Brian Boesch
All right, let's get into our national storylines because it kind of
00:25:49 Brian Boesch
layers into this.
00:25:50 Brian Boesch
Notre Dame held off Miami 31-24.
00:25:53 Brian Boesch
Probably the best case scenario for the ACC or, you know, kind of half ACC programs there with Miami and Notre Dame.
00:26:01 Brian Boesch
Notre Dame doesn't have much of a schedule down the stretch.
00:26:03 Brian Boesch
They're pretty much locked in now that they beat the former number one team in the country.
00:26:08 Jon Jansen
Yeah, I think so.
00:26:08 Jon Jansen
And we'll find out tonight where they're going to be ranked.
00:26:10 Jon Jansen
What were they last week?
00:26:11 Jon Jansen
11.
00:26:12 Brian Boesch
11, yeah.
00:26:13 Jon Jansen
Yeah.
00:26:14 Jon Jansen
And so they're not going to jump up, you know,
00:26:17 Jon Jansen
I don't think they'll jump up into the top five, but they'll probably be somewhere six or seven.
00:26:23 Jon Jansen
I would anticipate, which like to your point, they don't play anybody else.
00:26:27 Jon Jansen
They didn't play anybody outside of BYU and Miami, and they went 50-50 in those games.
00:26:33 Jon Jansen
So they'll win the rest of their games most likely.
00:26:36 Jon Jansen
They'll be in.
00:26:38 Jon Jansen
And it's just, you know, where does, how far does Miami fall down?
00:26:42 Jon Jansen
Do they actually go behind
00:26:44 Jon Jansen
Notre Dame because that's the other thing about Miami.
00:26:48 Jon Jansen
Who else have they played?
00:26:49 Jon Jansen
They took Florida State into overtime.
00:26:51 Jon Jansen
Florida State's not a great program, although it is a rival and they won by three points.
00:26:56 Jon Jansen
Was it the week before over North Carolina?
00:27:00 Brian Boesch
Yeah, they're fortunate they pulled off a few.
00:27:03 Brian Boesch
We talked about the Wake Forest win has aged well.
00:27:06 Brian Boesch
Wake, that's their only loss.
00:27:07 Brian Boesch
But I think an interesting one, which we'll talk about here in a minute.
00:27:10 Brian Boesch
Coming up this weekend, SEC, several relevant blowouts.
00:27:14 Brian Boesch
Georgia.
00:27:14 Brian Boesch
Hey, I've gotten a lot wrong this year, but I felt pretty good about Georgia going to Oxford and just dominating.
00:27:20 Brian Boesch
I mean, they blew out the rebels 42 to 7.
00:27:23 Brian Boesch
Alabama pulls away from LSU 3113.
00:27:26 Brian Boesch
But hey, Lane Kiffin's entrance was awesome.
00:27:29 Brian Boesch
Tennessee decks Kentucky 34 to 6.
00:27:32 Brian Boesch
And then Texas moves to seven and two.
00:27:34 Brian Boesch
They win at Missouri 3420 in a game that was closer than that score would indicate.
00:27:39 Brian Boesch
Thoughts on that and an outstanding holy war, Utah up to 9 and oh, they beat BYU 28 to 20.
00:27:47 Jon Jansen
Yeah, that BYU Utah game was a lot of fun to watch.
00:27:51 Jon Jansen
Glad it was a noon game.
00:27:52 Jon Jansen
I'm sure those out in Utah, the state of Utah, were not too excited about it being a 10 A.m.
00:27:57 Jon Jansen
start.
00:27:57 Jon Jansen
I don't know, maybe they were.
00:27:59 Jon Jansen
Maybe they're true football fans.
00:28:01 Jon Jansen
But that one was Utah dropped out to that 14-0 lead.
00:28:05 Jon Jansen
I thought it was going to be a runaway.
00:28:08 Jon Jansen
BYU not so fast.
00:28:09 Jon Jansen
And it was both.
00:28:10 Brian Boesch
I think BYU is pretty good.
00:28:11 Brian Boesch
Like I think they're pretty good.
00:28:14 Jon Jansen
Okay.
00:28:17 Brian Boesch
I mean, I'm saying.
00:28:19 Brian Boesch
If they were in the SEC, I think people would give them more benefit of the doubt.
00:28:23 Brian Boesch
I think they're not going to make it because they've got two league losses.
00:28:28 Brian Boesch
I don't see them in the Big 12 championship game, but there are plenty of other two loss teams that I have a lot more skepticism about than BYU.
00:28:34 Brian Boesch
That's all I'm saying.
00:28:36 Jon Jansen
So then let's go back to that conversation we had earlier.
00:28:39 Jon Jansen
Would you take a nine and three USC team with a narrow loss to UCLA at the end of the season or a 10 and two BYU team?
00:28:51 Brian Boesch
I think BYU is slightly better.
00:28:53 Brian Boesch
I'd probably take them, but I can argue that the resume for USC still would be a little bit better because of, I mean, the loss at UCF isn't great, even though tremendous coaching.
00:29:05 Jon Jansen
Yeah, no, I mean, I agree.
00:29:06 Jon Jansen
And so that's where the
00:29:11 Jon Jansen
That's where the, I know you're trying to get me to say.
00:29:15 Brian Boesch
You disagreed.
00:29:16 Brian Boesch
You agreed.
00:29:17 Brian Boesch
I agree with your agreement.
00:29:19 Jon Jansen
Yeah, that was a good win for UCF.
00:29:22 Brian Boesch
It was.
00:29:24 Brian Boesch
All right, this weekend, Georgia and Alabama, big favorites against Missouri and Vandy respectively.
00:29:30 Brian Boesch
Tennessee, interestingly, a slight favorite at Texas A&M.
00:29:34 Brian Boesch
Texas, a slight dog at LSU.
00:29:37 Brian Boesch
ACC, this is a week where we'll see if they have a chance to be a two bid league because Duke seven and two, I mean, they just throttles at NC State the other day.
00:29:48 Brian Boesch
They're at eight and one Miami and then eight and one Wake Forest at seven and two SMU, basically a coin flip.
00:29:55 Brian Boesch
We'll see if Utah has a potential letdown like BYU did after the win over Notre Dame.
00:30:00 Brian Boesch
They're at seven and two Arizona.
00:30:02 Brian Boesch
Tucson is a tough place to play.
00:30:03 Brian Boesch
Texas Tech is at Oklahoma State.
00:30:06 Brian Boesch
The Red Raiders, they think it was 53-48 the win over West Virginia.
00:30:10 Brian Boesch
They're the only other Big 12 team with fewer than two losses on the year.
00:30:15 Brian Boesch
The Big 12 will probably need
00:30:18 Brian Boesch
a team to beat Utah in the Big 12 championship game to get in two teams to the postseason.
00:30:24 Brian Boesch
How would you, where does your mind go with this weekend where, wait, there's not as many marquee matchups, but it feels like we're gonna have a couple of playoff altering upsets.
00:30:38 Brian Boesch
I just don't know where they are.
00:30:39 Jon Jansen
Well, yeah, I mean, if Texas loses to LSU,
00:30:44 Jon Jansen
Does is Texas done with their third loss?
00:30:46 Jon Jansen
I would think they probably are.
00:30:49 Brian Boesch
Now that now that Ohio State has three losses that win obviously doesn't have as much of an impact with Texas beating Ohio State that that in week two that felt like that could make up for a loss and that just hasn't happened.
00:31:01 Jon Jansen
Well, but at that time that was that was Ohio State with
00:31:07 Jon Jansen
So I think the committee will take a look at that.
00:31:10 Jon Jansen
And I think that one still holds up pretty good at that time with the roster the way it was.
00:31:16 Jon Jansen
I think the big one that I'm going to be looking at, I already talked about USC going to Bloomington as 7 1/2 point dogs and coming away with a win.
00:31:24 Jon Jansen
Utah going to Arizona.
00:31:26 Jon Jansen
You already mentioned it.
00:31:26 Jon Jansen
Arizona is a tough place to go and Arizona is playing really good defense right now.
00:31:31 Jon Jansen
They're a team that they believe
00:31:35 Jon Jansen
that if they win out and get a chance to play in that big 12 championship game, they could be a team that is what, a two loss team that would get into a last entry into the college football playoffs.
00:31:48 Jon Jansen
So they're playing for their playoff lives.
00:31:50 Jon Jansen
And is there a letdown after Utah's big win in the holy war?
00:31:55 Jon Jansen
So that's one game that I'm really going to be interested to watch.
00:32:01 Jon Jansen
Texas, I mentioned Texas at LSU.
00:32:04 Jon Jansen
I think that one's interesting.
00:32:06 Jon Jansen
So there are some games this week and Oklahoma, Ole Miss going to Oklahoma.
00:32:11 Jon Jansen
No one's going to sit there and mistake Oklahoma for a good team, but they've been scrappy.
00:32:16 Jon Jansen
They've lost a couple of tight ones.
00:32:18 Jon Jansen
I is Ole Miss.
00:32:21 Jon Jansen
Are they ready to throw in the towel after that last loss?
00:32:24 Jon Jansen
Like, I don't know.
00:32:26 Jon Jansen
So I think there's
00:32:27 Jon Jansen
There's some good games.
00:32:28 Jon Jansen
I think Georgia is just humming along right now.
00:32:31 Jon Jansen
I'm glad they got Missouri at home, but I think they're just the most well-rounded team.
00:32:36 Jon Jansen
I am curious to see if they're going to be also number one in the college football playoff poll or will they put Utah in that one spot.
00:32:46 Brian Boesch
Over under, I asked you this last week, 2 1/2 big 10 teams make the playoff.
00:32:50 Brian Boesch
What this week do you say?
00:32:52 Jon Jansen
I think it'll be 3.
00:32:54 Jon Jansen
I do.
00:32:55 Jon Jansen
I think I'm going to go with the over
00:32:57 Jon Jansen
And I just think there's too much juice for the Big 10 now.
00:33:00 Jon Jansen
They may cannibalize themselves and and they may.
00:33:03 Jon Jansen
Maybe they don't belong, but I do think there's going to be a third Big 10 team.
00:33:07 Brian Boesch
Yeah, I mean to me the the winner of well again USC nine and three.
00:33:12 Brian Boesch
If USC beats Indiana and loses to UCLA.
00:33:15 Brian Boesch
I don't know it's it's going to be tough that really the Big 10 it would behoove the Big 10 to have Iowa get to 10 and two.
00:33:24 Brian Boesch
I just think that that's their best
00:33:26 Brian Boesch
easiest path.
00:33:27 Brian Boesch
I think Iowa might be the most likely team to go undefeated the rest of the season among those contenders.
00:33:32 Jon Jansen
Well, is there a world that a ten and two Iowa team and a nine and three US team gets in and they got four Big Ten teams?
00:33:39 Brian Boesch
I don't think so.
00:33:41 Brian Boesch
Yeah, there'd have to be real chaos in the SEC.
00:33:43 Brian Boesch
You'd have to have a one bid, one bid, Big 12, one big ACC.
00:33:48 Brian Boesch
Yeah, I don't know.
00:33:50 Brian Boesch
We'll see.
00:33:51 Jon Jansen
I mean, I would be too, but-.
00:33:53 Brian Boesch
And hey, you know what?
00:33:54 Brian Boesch
I don't want, the only representative put Oregon in this is because we've already talked about them.
00:33:58 Brian Boesch
Oregon's still in this mix too.
00:34:00 Brian Boesch
If Oregon wins out, they've got some hearty victories.
00:34:03 Jon Jansen
Yeah, yeah.
00:34:04 Jon Jansen
But I mean, I guess there is a need for that 2014 playoff then.
00:34:08 Brian Boesch
Oh, thank goodness.
00:34:09 Brian Boesch
Yeah.
00:34:10 Brian Boesch
You know, Wake Forest at SMU would be for seeding.
00:34:13 Brian Boesch
Awesome.
00:34:14 Brian Boesch
All right, let's make our transitions here on the audio side.
00:34:18 Brian Boesch
Here's Jon's conversation with Captain Trey Pierce.
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00:34:26 Jon Jansen
Now joined by Trey Pierce, captain of the Michigan football team.
00:34:30 Jon Jansen
And Trey, I know that the season, the results as a team haven't been where you wanted them to be.
00:34:38 Jon Jansen
There's 3 games left.
00:34:40 Jon Jansen
What type of perspective do you have as you approach these last three games?
00:34:45 Trey Pierce
Yeah, obviously the season has been going the way we have been wanting it.
00:34:49 Trey Pierce
I know for me and my teammates, our mindset is to compete at the highest level every game.
00:34:55 Trey Pierce
And these last three games are just giving me opportunities to compete against really good players.
00:35:00 Trey Pierce
And yeah.
00:35:02 Jon Jansen
I know that Coach was asked about the locker room.
00:35:06 Jon Jansen
And I want to ask you as a captain, what are the challenges that you face in keeping these guys together and still striving for wins?
00:35:15 Trey Pierce
Just kind of focusing on our common goals.
00:35:17 Trey Pierce
I mean, things aren't going the way we want to be.
00:35:21 Trey Pierce
Obviously, we've been through a lot this whole season.
00:35:26 Trey Pierce
And I think just kind of refocusing guys, saying winning games and representing Michigan as best we can is the goal.
00:35:32 Trey Pierce
That's all we can focus on now, and that's what we can achieve, can achieve right now.
00:35:36 Jon Jansen
Defensively, you guys have played in large part extremely well, especially up front.
00:35:43 Jon Jansen
The relationship that you have with Enow and the other guys at the defensive tackle position, how have you been able to lean on those guys to continue to produce the way you guys have?
00:35:54 Trey Pierce
Yeah, we're just so deep at that at our D tackle position.
00:35:58 Trey Pierce
It's really nice because
00:36:00 Trey Pierce
You're beat up for a few games.
00:36:02 Trey Pierce
You have Jonah Leia, we don't skip a beat when he's in.
00:36:06 Trey Pierce
Eno's been balling.
00:36:07 Trey Pierce
Like you got guys like Bobby Kanka and David Palepale who's been coming along.
00:36:11 Trey Pierce
Cam Brandt's in our room now and he's been flashing a lot.
00:36:15 Trey Pierce
So it takes a lot of pressure off of you having to perform at such a super, like you don't have to do anything crazy.
00:36:21 Trey Pierce
You just have to do your job.
00:36:22 Trey Pierce
You have guys like that around you.
00:36:23 Jon Jansen
Cam's not new to the defense, but a little bit new to playing that defensive tackle position.
00:36:29 Jon Jansen
How can you guys help him develop and just recognize some of the things that are different being inside than they are being on the outside?
00:36:37 Trey Pierce
Yeah, just like helping along with things like
00:36:40 Trey Pierce
He's A twitchy guy.
00:36:41 Trey Pierce
So him being inside, we need to tell him like you got to shorten up your steps.
00:36:44 Trey Pierce
You got to create some room where there is, where outside you might have a lot of room, a lot of steps to build up and to get into your move.
00:36:50 Trey Pierce
Inside, you know, it's on you quick.
00:36:52 Trey Pierce
So you have to kind of use power to create some room, create some space and kind of getting used to rushing inside.
00:36:57 Jon Jansen
When you look at going out west, it's going to be a longer trip.
00:37:00 Jon Jansen
You guys go out Thursday.
00:37:03 Jon Jansen
What does that look like from a player's perspective, having that extra day out on the west coast?
00:37:09 Trey Pierce
I know for me it's a little exciting.
00:37:10 Trey Pierce
Just a longer road trip, it feels like it's a bigger deal.
00:37:16 Trey Pierce
Getting an opportunity to go out to a place I've never been to Oregon before.
00:37:19 Trey Pierce
So getting to go out there is I'm excited at that prospect.
00:37:24 Jon Jansen
You talked earlier in the season about some of your goals.
00:37:26 Jon Jansen
One of them was trying to create more penetration.
00:37:29 Jon Jansen
Where are you at in just individually in the goals that you've tried to accomplish as a player?
00:37:37 Trey Pierce
I'm close to hitting on some of my goals, but honestly, I could always be better.
00:37:42 Trey Pierce
just that player in me, I always want to be better.
00:37:44 Trey Pierce
I want to be better than what I've been playing.
00:37:47 Jon Jansen
What are some of the things that you want to be better at when you guys do face Oregon?
00:37:52 Trey Pierce
Yeah, more havoc plays, playing in the backfield, more making more plays.
00:37:59 Jon Jansen
Looking at Oregon and the fact that, hey, they're a big offensive line, what type of challenges?
00:38:05 Jon Jansen
I know it's earlier in the week, but have you seen enough film to be able to see, identify some of the challenges that they present you guys as a front unit?
00:38:14 Trey Pierce
Yeah, so they're big, strong, athletic.
00:38:16 Trey Pierce
They're a good old line.
00:38:18 Trey Pierce
It's a nice, challenge to go against.
00:38:21 Trey Pierce
I feel like we're up to the task, but yeah, they're big, strong, athletic.
00:38:25 Trey Pierce
We'll see.
00:38:26 Jon Jansen
So much is focused on you guys as players outside of football, mid-season.
00:38:32 Jon Jansen
How do you guys balance school, football, and just trying to relax a little bit?
00:38:39 Jon Jansen
What do you guys do to relax?
00:38:41 Trey Pierce
It's tough, but we find times to go out to dinner as a D-line group and just kind of finding time outside of football, meeting up at each other's houses, just hanging out, just enjoying our time with each other because the season's coming to an end, so I know those opportunities are limited.
00:38:55 Jon Jansen
So who picks the movie?
00:38:58 Trey Pierce
So we actually started this movie before the game on Friday.
00:39:01 Trey Pierce
It's called Clayface.
00:39:02 Trey Pierce
It's a DC movie.
00:39:04 Trey Pierce
And we had to leave, we had to leave and go to the hotel before we were able to finish it.
00:39:08 Trey Pierce
So right now we're just, we're going to finish where we started.
00:39:11 Trey Pierce
Me and a bunch of the D linemen, like Enow and John Henry and Jonah.
00:39:15 Jon Jansen
Is that the genre of movie?
00:39:17 Jon Jansen
Is that a Marvel one?
00:39:19 Trey Pierce
Yeah, it's a super, it's a DC movie.
00:39:21 Trey Pierce
But yeah,
00:39:22 Trey Pierce
We've it's we go to a lot of movies.
00:39:24 Trey Pierce
We go to horror movies.
00:39:25 Trey Pierce
We go to see like animated movies.
00:39:27 Trey Pierce
We I know like the movie we saw this summer that I remember is Hoppers.
00:39:31 Trey Pierce
It's like a Pixar movie kind of thing.
00:39:33 Jon Jansen
My five-year-old loves that.
00:39:34 Trey Pierce
Yeah, no, I went and saw we saw it twice.
00:39:37 Trey Pierce
It's a great movie.
00:39:41 Trey Pierce
So we switched it up.
00:39:42 Jon Jansen
What's the best one that you guys have gone to as a team?
00:39:47 Trey Pierce
We went and saw the Odyssey.
00:39:50 Trey Pierce
Oh, as a team, as a team.
00:39:51 Jon Jansen
Oh, no, as a defensive line.
00:39:52 Trey Pierce
As a D line, yeah, the D line, we saw the Odyssey this summer.
00:39:55 Trey Pierce
That was amazing.
00:39:56 Trey Pierce
Yeah, it was something in there for everybody.
00:39:58 Trey Pierce
I know Jon Henry really got into it.
00:40:01 Trey Pierce
was a really nice time.
00:40:03 Jon Jansen
So I think I maybe asked this and I blew past it, but who picks the movie and who decides on where you guys go?
00:40:13 Trey Pierce
Sometimes it's a different person every time.
00:40:15 Trey Pierce
It's kind of consensus though, like, okay, we'll see this movie.
00:40:19 Trey Pierce
I picked a few.
00:40:21 Trey Pierce
I know Enow's picked a few.
00:40:23 Trey Pierce
But yeah, it's always Jonah, Jonah's picked a few, like John Henry.
00:40:28 Jon Jansen
Has there been anybody that picked one where you're like, this is the last one you pick?
00:40:32 Jon Jansen
The worst movie that you guys have seen?
00:40:34 Trey Pierce
The worst movie, I like the movie, but I picked this horror movie and
00:40:40 Trey Pierce
Some guys didn't like it.
00:40:41 Trey Pierce
was called, what was it called?
00:40:42 Trey Pierce
Undertone.
00:40:43 Jon Jansen
It's a bold move because not everybody likes scary movies.
00:40:46 Trey Pierce
Yeah, and some guys, so Jon Henry told me he'll never come see a horror movie with us ever again.
00:40:51 Jon Jansen
You got to watch it with the lights on.
00:40:52 Trey Pierce
It was scary.
00:40:52 Trey Pierce
It was undertone.
00:40:53 Trey Pierce
It was like, it was an interesting movie.
00:40:56 Jon Jansen
I like it.
00:40:58 Jon Jansen
So I'll follow that up.
00:40:59 Jon Jansen
It's going to be what, a five-hour plane ride-ish?
00:41:01 Jon Jansen
I don't know exactly how long it is from Detroit to Oregon, but what will you be watching on the way out?
00:41:10 Trey Pierce
I don't know.
00:41:10 Trey Pierce
I think I need to watch.
00:41:12 Trey Pierce
I need to rewatch Coach Carter because I have to watch for one of my classes actually.
00:41:16 Jon Jansen
Oh, you do?
00:41:16 Jon Jansen
Okay.
00:41:16 Trey Pierce
Yeah, I have a coaching leadership class.
00:41:19 Trey Pierce
I have to watch Coach Carter for it.
00:41:20 Trey Pierce
And then I never watched The Blind Side because that's our backup movie if we can't find clips in Coach Carter.
00:41:25 Trey Pierce
So I guess I watched The Blind Side too.
00:41:27 Jon Jansen
Fun fact, if you read the book, I'm in the book.
00:41:29 Trey Pierce
Really.
00:41:30 Jon Jansen
Yeah.
00:41:30 Jon Jansen
Patrick Ramsey, who was our quarterback at the time, they had asked him for, and I forget the kid's name that was The Blind Side, but
00:41:39 Jon Jansen
he needed clothes.
00:41:41 Jon Jansen
And so I was the only one on the team that had clothes big enough.
00:41:45 Jon Jansen
So I donated to him.
00:41:47 Jon Jansen
So just a little one liner in the book, but I got cut out of the movie.
00:41:53 Jon Jansen
So yeah, go read the book.
00:41:54 Jon Jansen
Hey, I appreciate it.
00:41:55 Jon Jansen
Have a safe travels out to Oregon.
00:41:57 Jon Jansen
Best of luck out there and we'll look forward to seeing you on the field.
00:42:00 Trey Pierce
Thank you.
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00:42:01 Jeff Laurence
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00:42:13 Jeff Laurence
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00:42:19 Jeff Laurence
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